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Thursday, November 20, 2014

Laser, Adjustments, and Thermal

The awesome Lisa Cawte-Baker (name used with permission) came out to the barn and did thermal imaging, laser therapy, and adjustments on Winn and Indy last week. She has been invaluable when it comes to the race horses. We've had several horses that wouldn't have had much of a career or lasted very long in this sport without her. She doesn't feed us lines of BS or promise results that she can't deliver, her knowledge has spoken for itself and Lisa has proven herself to the fiancé and I several times over. We are very lucky to have access to her and it's great to now have her helping my dressage horses too. Spoiled/lucky horses.

Lisa is an Equine Therapist, certified thermographer, and laser therapy expert. For more information on the work that she's done, case studies, etc., you can search her name.

Lisa watched my lesson to see what is going on with Indy. She is usually spot on with where they are having problems and picked up on Indy's right hind immediately. Lisa was also quick to pick up on me sitting crooked and counted for the effect that would have on my horse. This led to the decision to thermal my saddle.

Image courtesy of Diamond L Equine Therapy
*This is a picture of the image on the camera. The image on the camera itself shows up very clear.

So the red spots are what we don't want, especially on the panels. Ideally, both panels would be yellow/green. In the picture above, you can see where it's red towards the middle of the panel. I sit twisted in the saddle, with my left seat bone further forward than my right. In the picture below, you can see where my weight is causing pressure towards the middle of the panel on the left and towards the back of the panel to the right. I knew that I wasn't sitting evenly, but this shows me where I'm crooked better. Looks like I need to get adjusted too.

Image courtesy of Diamond L Equine Therapy

Image courtesy of Diamond L Equine Therapy
This shows how I am affecting Indy on the right side by sitting crooked. 

Image courtesy of Diamond L Equine Therapy
Another view. The hot spots coincide with where the heat in my saddle is. I unfortunately forgot to get an image of her left side, which also matched what my saddle showed. My saddle is also a little wide for Indy and causing pressure in her withers.

I would just like to point out that while the Ogilvy Memory Foam Half Pad (or any other half pad) probably helps with pressure points, it doesn't completely eliminate them. There literally is no perfect replacement for a saddle that fits correctly or perfect cure for one that doesn't fit correctly. The saddle fitter is coming next month and I'm definitely having mine done. It's needed to be fit for quite some time and I'm so glad to finally have a trusted saddle fitter in the area.

I figured Indy was out in her poll, kneck, withers, back, and hips. I was right about everything except that her poll was fine, her shoulders were uneven, and her sternum needed adjusted.
Lisa marks the spots that need adjusted, I used Doodle to mark them so that you guys can see them easier.

I missed the spots on the left side and the one that you can see on the right in this picture due to the light.

The left side. I believe that there is another spot hidden just underneath her mane.

Her right shoulder needed to go up.

Out in her sternum.

Indy loved the laser therapy and had a euphoric/blissful look on her face. After that, she had her adjustment. Her hips looked even for the first time in a long time. 

What is interesting is that Winn was out in similar places to Indy and I hadn't even ridden him in a LONG time (apparently I've been sitting crooked in the saddle for way too long). That just goes to show that if a horse has a sore back, just giving them a break won't fix the problem. The soreness may mostly go away, but the same problems will eventually come back once they start working again. I've seen better results come from adjusting them before giving them time off.


Neck

Right side (there were a couple of spots that I missed marking up by his withers)....

Left side....see what I mean?

Winn really loved the laser therapy and after the adjustment? Well, for the first time since I started riding him, he didn't twist in the hocks when he walked off. I started riding him when he was three and he's now ten. For the first time in SEVEN years, Winn walked completely normal! I seriously need to start taking before and after videos....

I will do the follow up on their post-adjustment rides in my next post.

*If you don't believe in laser therapy or vertebral adjustments, that's fine with me. You have every right to your own opinion. That being said, I've seen what it can do and nothing will change my opinion. Please don't try to force what you believe on me because I would never try to force what I believe on you. Also, no, I don't believe that laser therapy and adjustments should be used as an alternative to veterinary care. Lisa is adamant about not starting on a horse without a vet looking at it first. We've never had a problem with our vet not approving and we've had very good results using laser therapy and adjustments in conjunction with veterinary treatment.

A special thanks to Lisa Cawte-Baker for all that you do and for caring about my horses as much as I do!

26 comments:

  1. What is laser therapy supposed to do? I've never seen it before.

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    1. It stimulates healing in cells, reducing inflammation and recovery time for injuries. It provides pain relief, increases circulation, helps muscle soreness, etc. Sorry that this is the short version :) I probably missed a million things, but that's the very basics.

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  2. I swear by my guy who does chiro and laser. I like you have seen the results and they are amazing. Its not cheap but its worth every single penny.

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  3. i think this is so cool - and love that she actually marked the 'out' locations. my chiro writes it all down for me, but i don't always know exactly where on the horse her notes relate to.

    it's both frustrating and useful to know that the rider has such a great impact on the horse - will be curious to hear any follow up

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    1. The problem areas are definitely a good thing to have a record of. Follow up soon

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  4. How interesting!

    I just participated in a day long intro clinic in myofascial + trigger therapy last weekend. Repeat - very intro. That being said - many of the points you have marked correspond to points on the bladder meridian - the one meridian we practiced on the horses.

    The very up tb that was my practice horse transformed from couldn't stop wiggling, head tossing and almost snapping the cross ties, to head hanging down to the floor with droppy lip and closed eyes. That took maybe ten minutes of super amateur work.

    We had a long discussion about complementary / non-western therapies, the history of and resistance to. I've had great success with these types of bodywork on myself, and have seen numerous horses respond positively as well.

    We're on similar tracks apparently - I have an appointment with the saddle fitter in two weeks. ;D

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    1. That sounds like a great clinic! It is amazing to see the changes in the horses.

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  5. I adore my chiropractor -- she's also an equine vet and a dressage trainer, judge, and rider -- and I know it can do wonderful things for a horse. I think part of the cultural ambivalence surrounding chiropractic and laser is the HUGE variety in chiropractors. For example, two of the local-ish chiropractors that I know will push a horse up against a wall or stand on a stool and use their body weight to adjust, and their adjustments seem to "fall out" after a short period of time. Other chiropractors I know can change things without that kind of force and the adjustments last. I know it would be picked up by digital analysis if anyone cared to do the analysis, but once again the variety in chiropractors would also cloud results.

    So basically, it's a huge bummer that some people don't believe in it, because think of all the out-of-whack horses out there that could so benefit from a good adjustment, and move better!

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    1. It really can help so many. I completely agree that there are ones that use way more force than necessary and that their adjustments don't hold. Unfortunately, the ones that aren't very good do put a dark cloud over all of them. I also think that people often don't get the results they want because they are expecting it to be a cure-all or don't follow instructions to maintain the adjustment. Or they don't realize that the horse will start using muscles that they weren't before and will probably experience some soreness in them. There are just so many factors that contribute to whether or not the treatment is succesful.

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  6. I would wrap my chiro up and keep him in my pocket if it weren't considered creepy and socially unacceptable. I LOVE him, and so does J (kinda).

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    1. Ha! I often think the same thing. Wouldn't it be amazing to have access to them every day?

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  7. Is the laser like one of those pen laser things? I would love to know the name of it. I do accupressure with my horse and the difference it makes is night and day! I would LOVE to try the laser as well- have heard nothing but great things! At first I wasn't too impressed with the sound of an acupressure but after seeing the results I will never go back.

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    1. Lisa's is larger, a handheld one. I'm not sure about the laser pens. From what I've heard is that if the laser is under a few thousand dollars, it probably isn't a real laser, but a red light. The red lights work on the acupressure points, but they don't have the ability to heal like the lasers and don't penetrate nearly as deep.

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    2. I can't remember the exact name of her's, but I'll find out :)

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  8. I went to a seminar held by vets about a year ago about sport horse medicine and they discussed laser therapy. They certainly seemed sold on it. Interesting that they have to use a "lighter dose" (not sure how to say it) laser for chestnuts because they experience heat more strongly.
    What a nice horse mom you are for doing a day at the spa for your ponies! :)

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    1. More and more vets seem to be getting on board with the lasers :) I didn't know that about chestnuts, very interesting!

      Now I just need a spa day for me :)

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    2. I'm right there with you on the spa day! :) It's Christmas - treat yo'self!

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  9. Super interesting post, thanks for all the photos ☺
    Hope all goes well with the saddle fitter and can't wait to hear how the adjustments affect the under saddle experience.

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    1. Hopefully, I get that post up soon. It's been a busy week, but I'll get to it eventually.

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  10. That's sad you have to put that note at the bottom. :\ I haven't ever tried any of this so I have no idea how much it helps, but I trust your word. I really need to find someone, but I live out in the boonies and equine professional are few and far between. I guess I could try a human chiro, but I'm leery.... I would prefer someone who works on horses every day. I'm glad they both feel better after their treatments!!

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    1. I wasn't sure that I should put that part in there. I've read, seen, heard some pretty nasty debates over how people feel about alternative therapies and didn't want this to turn into that :)

      I can totally relate to not having access when you're in the boonies. I will say that I had a vet that also did chiro and he was taught by a man who was a human chiropractor. However, the chiropractor was also a very good horseman. A licensed chiropractor/horseman that knows how to work on horses might be nearly impossible to come by though :)

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  11. That is so interesting! Thanks for sharing? :)

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  12. Exclamation point not question mark :P

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  13. I just had the chiropractor out last week. I don't know anyone around here who does laser therapy, but I would definitely try it. My horses LOVE getting adjusted … so do I! I also use a saddle fitter each spring. I would have her out more often, but she comes from quite a distance and would have to charge me a huge sum to show up just for me. Once a year seems to be adequate though.

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